To Laura
8/1/01 3:12 PM

First of all NO ONE said that having ambiguous genitalia made ANYONE less of a person! 

Then why hack it off? Why put a small child through a surgery like that? Exactly who is that will see it? How often do little girls see each other naked? When you make a big deal about something, you are saying it's a big deal.

If you yourself were born without a penis but with gonads, would you feel masculine? I am not talking would you peer into the mirror and think, "Gee I wish I WISH i LOOKED LIKE richard geriCHARD iLlook like I don't fit in with society."Gee I wish I was thinner. Gee, I wish I  could get this beauty mark taken off of my face. Gee, I wish I looked like the guy on the cover of GQ." NO. To a girl that is looking down at this structure that LOOKS like a penis she ain't gonna think, gee I wish it was prettier. I think she is going to say GEE, I wish I looked MORE feminine.

I'm curious how many 2 year old little girls do that? How many 5 year olds? By the time they're that age their attitude has been chosen by their parents, so it's not they who are initiating the concern, it's their parents.

Looking feminine in turn makes a woman feel feminine.

A woman. But we are talking about little girls here.

Some may be able to cope well with it. I believe they are out there too. Once again it is not cosmetic for like a tummy tuck or a nose job. It boils down to it mentally. NO NOT ALL GIRLS THAT HAVE THE SURGERY LEFT UP TO THEM WILL FEEL THIS WAY, BUT SOME DO BELIEVE IT OR NOT. NOR DO I THINK ALL  OF THEM ARE ARE FULL OF PROBLEMS.

I have yet to hear of one single CAH girls who regretted that her parents waited for her to decide when to have the surgery. I have heard plenty of women regret that their parents had them undergo it too early, and under the wrong conditions. Given those odds, why would anyone choose to risk doing the wrong thing?

But reading Aimee and some others, this can effect them in a big way. Don't belittle Aimee's life by denying these feelings don't exist. Don't think you will escape your daughter resenting your choice not to have the surgery done just because YOU feel her genitals won't bother her. I would LOVE to hear from these women that have had the opportunity to wait.

We have, from several, and the unanimously agreed that they were glad their parents chose to wait.

It would give me great peace to know they got through this if the choice was left up to them. We would have had the opportunity to hear from Michelle if you had not barged in with to making YOUR OWN point instead of letting Michelle make her point, answering questions. 

Now here's is where you are getting really rude and snotty. Look at this thread. Did I reply to Michelle? No. Who did I reply to? Someone trying to twist Michelle's post into a defense of surgery on children, which it wasn't. I simply pointed that out, and out gushed the emotional responses. Can you not see how one sided the discussion is. Whenever the topic is raised, a flood of emotional and even hateful posts comes from those trying to defend surgery on children, so that a reasonable discussion is impossible.

Geesh. This is what I mean when I say the debating is damaging to an extent. Now this well meaning thread is just about worthless. I know when this starts many drop off the board to avoid the bickering. Now no one learns.

No one learns because the topic is never allowed to be discussed rationally. Those opposed to elective surgery on CAH children are accused of all kinds of things, heartless, judgemental, unfeeling. And the discussion dies.

Look back at your posts. Look at how you've sunk to emotionalism in each one. And you want to blame me?

Danny Carlton
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