Re: Are you trying to make me feel I shouldn't be in this discussion????
8/1/01 6:02 PM

Because if you are, you are sadly wrong!  I have already told you I have a daughter.  By the LUCK OF THE DRAW she did not suffer CAH no!!  However, she was born 12 years ago and AT THAT TIME I can tell you now, there was NO support offered in these cases.  We didn't ave the benefit of these boards.  All through that pregnancy I wanted a girl......and I am not so bloody STUPID that I can't imagine how horrified I would have been to find her genitalia abnormal.  I would at that time of been VERY influenced by medical people and AT THAT TIME they did STANDARD operations.  I KNOW WOMEN that had them done to their daughters!!!!!!!!  Please don't assume therefore that I know nothing because I didn't SUFFER.  I have seen pictures for chrissaake!!!!  First you insulting the intersex people..........I sincerely hope that your daughter conforms to all your expectations.  Then your insulting the people that take the time to KNOW what it must be like.  My daughter is a carrier of the CAH recessive gene....and possibly some of my four boys.  In the future god know what will abound as far as GRANDCHILDREN are concerned.  MY GRANDCHILDREN!!!  Possible granddaughters, that could be born with the very same.  Therefore, despite your opinion that I shouldn't voice an opinion on something I havn't suffered.....GROW UP!!!

I want to have a hand in what happens to make the world a better place for them ......and that involves getting involved in discussions like this.  Don't tell me that there is genetic testing for couples.  Unfortunately.....relationships take time to become permanent ....and since the DAWN of time......young girls have accidentally become pregnant and boy's have in turn sewn their wild oats without regard and got young girls into trouble. 

Laura...I think you need to address some of the reason why you are coming to this board and having such an erratic opinion and WHY you are so easily offended when someone chooses to wait for surgery with their child. Do you envy them?  Do you feel that they should do as you did? Do you think other parent's have LESS of a problem because they had a BOY as opposed to a GIRL.  Right now, the same hormones that your daughter was exposed to IN UTERO are affecting my son on and emotional level.  Does that make YOUR problem anymore important than mine??  If you feel this way, you seriously need some counselling for yourself.  Please don't tell me you KNOW your daughter has sensation.  When I amputated the tip of my thumb I had sensation.  When I had an episiotomy...I had sensation. When I had a ceasarean, I had sensation.  Have you EVER done any of those things or what?  I had sensation ALRIGHT.  Stabbing odd unnatural sensations. Like pin pricks  EVERY TIME!  You made your damn decision.  Don't insult everyone else on this board by having these emotional outbursts when ALL we are trying to do is encourage and foster confidence in the child concerned and encourage them to have surgery much later when the time is right.  I HAVE HEARD EVERYONES SIDE LAURA, but I choose to respect the individuals CHOICE not give them GRIEF over it.

As for your perception of Danny and your criticism's there, you are rude, obnoxious and I don't know how he keeps so civil! 

Just because you have been coming to this board for two years does not make you GOD and the be all and end all where the RIGHT thing to do is concerned!!!

I hate to state that, but it's obvious from the way you talk about how "these things always get heated" that YOU are always involved when that happens.  We are trying to have a debate without hurting eachother, and so far you have just about managed to offend everyone on this board......i.e. when you rant on at me about how I have no clue because I got a boy....you direct that eat everyone on this board in my postition.  We read your words and .......well I personally feel you are immature and rude.  If you think that I am going to DROP off the board (as you so prattle on about GOOD people coming to the board with incite about OTHER aspects)  like all the other's, GET THIS>>>>>>>

I'm going NOWWHERE with a big fat capital N!!!!

I'm looking forward to having many HEALTHY debates in the future, OK!?!?!?!?

Michelle came here I believe to state that she had had surgery done as a bloody adult!!!  Her parent's made the decison to RESPECT her rights and her body and allow her to do that.  I'm glad she did.........it's interesting I feel to hear of these things ...IF YOU'D JUST SHADDAP and give them CHANCE TO HAPPEN!!!  If it were up to YOU, everyone that came here for advice about whether to have surgery would be advised to get it done!!!  Rather ironic don't you think.  Then we'd never see the Michelles coming to this board at all.  Is that what you want Laura.  That way they don't know "WHAT THEIR MISSING" and can't really ever TELL us that they are HAPPY. 

Before you start trying to insinuate that I am being rude and offensive........relaise this.....anyone that has an arrogant attitude as you have had on here is asking for such in return.  I treat people as I find them......and you are not the exception to the rule.  Don't give me any crap about being on this board to HELP.  Seems to me, your angry about something..........but it isn't going to do any good criticising people for their decisions.

We all have a world of experience to bring to this board on EVERY topic IF we are given the chance to voice them without condemnation and insults.  So I'm just going to put you right on that RIGHT HERE.  Don't think that every time I make a comment on this topic that you can JUMP in and insult me like you do with DANNY, cos it aint gonna come off.  It will get you NOWHERE first class!!!

 

PEACE?????? Do you know what that is?

 

Val

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Val
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