You have but to go to the thread entitled "To: VAL Re: Ash's Behaviour" and read through. There is no reason that Aimee should have been insulted like she was ESPECIALLY after she appologized (simply for not having the same opinion). It is a known fact that people with CAH have been sufferring with anxiety and suicidal problems for years. ( That is one of the avenue's that my research funding will be looking into.) Aimee as much as told her she was suicidal and her comments were totally out of line!!!Almost taunting her while she is confessing that she has been depressed AND had thoughts of killing herself. Talk about jumping in front of a car, what if she did. It doesn't take much to push someone who is depressed over the edge. Luckily, Aimee is getting stronger and is smart enough to know when something is rational and when it is irrational. I, too , believe in "healthy" debates but this one just wasn't healthy. The berating continued on after appologies and people leaving the board for good. Who was debating? As far as I know, it takes two people to have a debate. This was just mean spirited bantar and dangerous at that. We have had several CAH teens/adults committ suicide or die because they just didn't feel like taking their meds (only to find out later that they had been in a funk for some time). What should we do? Wait until someone dies before we step up and say "ok, this isn't a "Healthy" debate anymore? Wouldn't that be a little late? As far as "Ground Rules" go, I surfed around and found that, indeed many chat rooms and support boards do have loose knit guidelines such as no profanity, treat others with dignity and respect, no vulgarity, common sense, etc. I also personally know of two boards that utilized their right to delete AND block offensive postings. We are not trend setters here. I, personally don't feel offended by it as I am well aware that there are always the odd man/woman out who decides to cross line after line until..BAM, we're on dangerously close ground to pushing someone's final button. I'm afraid that some of you may have missed some of the final post that were removed more quickly due to the caustic content. I received a note from her (in the same style as this board) stating that her son had ODd on pills while she was trying to straighten all this mess out! She had just gotten back from the ER and began writting about this again. I am truly worried that priorities are mixed up here. So, you see, some debates can bring depression riddled women to the edge and can consume the mind of others so that they can focus only on retribution and not the families well being. I have no doubt in my mind that this "debate" went way too far and was heading to a grave, dark place. To date, I am still receiving emails from the person in question that are quite caustic and accusatory. She has threatened that she will forward messages to all CAH support groups about our "community" if things aren't made right for her and she states that she never made a bad comment up until the thread that she was kicked off of. She posts this and much more on her web site. Almost one whole page is dedicated to the injustices she feels were done to her. After she wrote all of that on her web site, she threatened me with something in the future if I speak her name again on this board. Talk about freedom of speach. I hope that this is the end of the whole thing. It was a very unpleasant situation but perhaps we learned from it just where that line is. What gets me is that all the debates that get the hottest are the ones that can't readily be proven and, up until now, are just people's opinions. Please let's all just pray that we all get through this as a whole and that no other children OR adults are injured from such a childish banter. Whoever said that we could click off the thread if we didn't want to read it is right to some extent, but sometimes there are very interesting experiences that are referred to sandwiched right smack in the middle of all that other stuff. I sure hope we can move past this and get on to focusing on getting better treatment for CAH. That is what it's all about. Our very children's lives.