Wow!! I have been to the top "CAH specialists" in the U.S. and none of them have even mentioned the word "sufferer". I gather from some of your postings that you are not from the U.S. The difference may be that where you live they break the catagories down more than we do. It could be that we have lumped "sufferers" and "carriers" together into one catagory. In speaking with the genetics specialist at Cornell, I am most certain that she explained that the way the genes line up for carriers one half of the gene is unable to function to make cortisol thereby rendering the individual only capable of making half the amount of a non carrier and some carriers feel that they are symptomatic. This would also explain some of the individuals I have known who have one blue eye and one brown eye. It is not common but it does happen. Hmmm, this is very interesting. I guess it's back to the genetics books for me. I would still be interested in hearing from those of you who have experienced CAH symptoms without being diagnosed as having CAH. I know that this thread is in the "Archives" somewhere but that is currently unaccessable. The symptoms that were listed seemed way too similar to be a pure coincidence. My doctor told me that a certain college here in CT is currently studying this very topic as they have begun to re-think the original theory. I would be very interested in their logic as it pertains to this subject. I think that this thread would be of great interest to Kaye in light of her recent posting under "Research". Many of her family members are being tested by Dr. New's geneticist to study why they were symptomatic yet not considered having CAH. I believe they termed one possibility "gene expression". This has peaked my interest and I would love any information you have on this scenario Kaye. Thanks in advance for all your input.