Betsy, Glad you appreciated the analogy. Actually I left out the part about the eye surgery being medically necessary on purpose. From reading what some parents have to say on this issue, it seems that many consider making a girl's genitals look like a girl's instead of a boy's to be medically necessary. As I stated above, I feel that term only applies when something is done to correct function. Using that definition, I would have to agree with you that clitoral reductions are not medically necessary. As we all know and acknowledge, a CAH girl is completely biologically female, with all the proper internal equipment to conceive and give birth to children. Changing the size of her clitoris has absolutely no impact on this, one way or another. Therefore it is not medically necessary. In that way you are right that this would be more similar to eye surgery to correct something like color or shape, rather than for something like cataracts. However, I thought the example would be more effective if it didn't open the door for another argument over semantics. So i purposefully chose to omit the part about medical necessity. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to make the point again though. :>)) I thought you brought up alot of great points in your newest message about the fact that if the surgeries are so great and successful, then we would be hearing from more adults who have had this done, as well as the doctors who have performed such feats. Not from parents of children who are 2 or 5 or 7 years old, who are not nearly sexually active, who say that everything looks great (i'm sure it does look great, but that is exactly the point here. We are not talking about how something looks, but how it works.) Nor from parents of grown CAH women who say that their daughters have married, had children, and tell them that they have sensation. As far as i am concerned, that is not proof of anything. Getting married and having children is no proof that you are happy sexually. And telling someone that you have sensation is not the same thing as having such in reality. Although i adore my mother and think she has been a wonderful role model all my life, believe me, if I were a CAH woman who has gone through surgery and finds herself completely without sensation, my mother would not necessarily be the first person I would choose to have an honest no-holds-barred discussion of my sex life and my capability or lack of it to achieve orgasm. So, much of what you said in the rest of your message is stuff i already agree with. In that way I guess you are preaching to the choir but I guess you probably already knew that.