Carol M.Betsy, Try posting to Julia S. I think it was she who originally put up those studies. Also, look on p. 2 of the controversies board. Post by Sue, from the UK, now way down at the bottom of the page, from 12/2. If you go to the link she posted, then look at the end of the article, in the bibliography, there are a couple of other studies listed there, as well, which seem to have the types of numbers/statistics that you are looking for.