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WOW! I think Dana has spoken for all of us mom's that have made our choices. That is to have surgery OR NOT. Just last week I wanted to post off this board to you Betsy personally. I have said it a million times in the past and I will say it again. If you took all that energy against surgery and applied it to working with both sides of this contoversy imagine the outcome. You are so hurt from your childhood it seems and want revenge on the whole world. I feel so bad for you. There are days I want to blast you back for the mean words you choose. I have tried to keep out of this controversy because it is energy sucking for me. I know I made my right choice and have peace with it. So I let it go. Then I think if I don't post something here in defense for all other moms that made choices for their daughters, I can't let them be swallowed up in the negativeness of Betsy either. So here is my two cents. Until you become a mother you cannot pass judgement. You will never know what it means to be a mother until you become one. You would surely die for your children. Hurt for them, pain for them suffer for them. If God could just give us that magic to trade places with them. I am not sure how your relationship with your own parents was. Maybe you never felt that with them. Maybe that is why you can't see the love we all have for our girls. I just don't know. But I do know you need to find some peace in your life. You seem to live in a constant rage. Screaming, "Look at me! I hurt dammit! and everyone else is going to hurt with me until I feel better!" But I think you hurt more inside than outside. I am so sorry what happened to you. I think we all feel sorry for that. I know alot of people turn you off when you appear on this board. Could you imagine how many would actually listen to what you have to say about the dangers of not finding the right surgeon if you would change your outlook on all this? My strong thoughts are to be an advocate of finding the right surgeon. You screaming to not have surgery because the child should make up their mind is baffling to me. From the past if I can remember, didn't you or someone else say you wanted to make it a law that surgeries cannot be done before a certain age. If that is true than you are what you hate. You are trying to take that choice away from girls that are viralized. You point the finger and say we are letting our daughter's be "mutilized". Then you push to get it surgeries stopped altogether. How about the girls that WANT the surgery and would have to wait? Whatever the case, your pain needs to be stopped. Don't you want peace in your life? Some people don't know how to let go of anger, because that anger is what fuels them. Perhaps you don't want to let go of the anger because that is your fuel. Love fuels someone too you know. It actually ignites them. I don't think your anger comes from your botched surgery. I think it is deeper than that. (ok I sound like Dr. Phil now.) I am sorry for "Philism" you. Find your peace. Berating mothers like us that choose to have surgery for our daughters isn't going to bring you any kind of peace. Honestly, find your peace. Imagine the life you could live. Peace.